Quelque'un connais Joseph Elliot's

J'ai dégotté un rasoir tout rouillé sur une brocante et je pensait la lame bonne pour la poubelle. Je l'avais pris juste pour les chasses !
Finalement, je me suis dis allons y, donnons lui une chance à ce petit.

En grattant la rouille, j'ai vu un marquage JOSEPH ELLIOT'S
En dessous il y a écris "BEST SILVERSTEEL".

Si quelqu'un à des infos :?:

La lame doit être assez ancienne, est-ce qu'elle est plutôt du type wedge avec un marquage dans ce genre ?



Bon mais un Joseph Elliot ça se garde et ça se restaure...nomdidiou !

Je crois que c'est anglais ce CC , enfin pas sûr quand même.
En tout cas c'est une marque très connue et ancienne.
Si tu arrives à le restaurer fonces

C'est exactement comme ce que tu me montre là Choucas.
Que c'est Anglais je m'en doutais... mais quand vous dites ancien... ancien comment ?

De toute façon, un drame est arrivé en cette fin d'après-midi.
Après 1/2 journée d'effort à l'huile de coude uniquement, j'ai bousculé la lame avec mon coude en me retournant. Bardaf, c'est l'embardée direct sur le carrelage.

Ca ne pardonne pas ces choses-là..., Je CC s'est cassé en 2 beaux morceaux. Décidément ce que je suis maladroit ces dernier temps.

Il me reste les chasses ... mais elles sont en plastique :boxe:

Richpa a écrit:

Je crois que c'est anglais ce CC , enfin pas sûr quand même.
En tout cas c'est une marque très connue et ancienne.
Si tu arrives à le restaurer fonces

Je confirme, Joseph Elliot est bienAnglais, de Sheffield, il a même fait parti des illustres "Cuttlery of her majesty"

Ouioui, ça se réstaure

ghoz a écrit:

Je CC s'est cassé en 2 beaux morceaux.

Ah ben voilà, tu es maintenant maudit par sa majesty...c'est comme lorsqu'on casse un miroir mais là le tarif c'est 7 ans de coupures.
Pour le "cutlery of her majesty", tu es sûr que tu ne t'emballes pas un peu chewba ? Je ne vois pas ça pour Joseph Elliot, peut être que ses successeurs l'ont été.

Apparemment les Joseph Elliot sont tous antérieurs à 1900.

ELLIOT, JOSEPH
Sheffield
Trademark: C reversed and C, with cross between
1821-1854 ("More Old Razors" by Lummus. Antiques, May 1927 p.372-374)

Sinon des infos supplémentaires (en anglais) sur l'historique Joseph Elliot and Sons avec une brève évocation de Joseph Elliot "himself".

Archival history:
In the 1950s Joseph Elliot and Sons (Sheffield) Limited was contacted regarding its business records by the National Register of Archives. The first stage report was returned and no further enquiry was made regarding archive material as 'most of the records were destroyed during war period.'
In early 2000, the company invited Sheffield Archives to the premises at Sylvester Street, Sheffield, to select any business records considered to be of historical interest. The premises were due to be renovated into student accommodation by the following September. Unfortunately the records were not arranged in any discernable manner and therefore have been arranged according to a schema used to highlight the various functions and activities of a business. Records identified as belonging to a subsidiary company have been listed as such; unidentifiable material has been included in the listing for the parent company with a note to this effect.

Administrative history:
Joseph Elliot and Sons (Sheffield) Limited established as a private limited company in 1927. The company's history however dates back to the Joseph Elliot and Sons business that was founded in 1795 at Hollis Croft, Sheffield. Joseph Elliot was a cutlery manufacturer and made high-class kitchen knives for the Butchers and Catering trades; silver-plated tableware for cookware retailers; pocket knives, floor scrapers and scissors for ironmongers and hardware retailers; as well as silver-plated ware and silver cutlery.
In 1921 Joseph Elliot and Sons was incorporated by Sheffield Cutlery Manufacturers Limited. The latter had been incorporated on May 8th 1919 and formed with the sole intention of acquiring five cutlery businesses in Sheffield: Thomas Turner and Company (Sheffield) Limited; Needham, Veall and Tyzack Limited; Joseph Elliot and Sons; Lockwood Brothers Limited; and Southern and Richardson Limited.
Joseph Elliot and Sons continued to trade at Hollis Croft until 1923 following an agreement with Lockwood Brothers Limited to move to Spital Works, Spital Hill, Sheffield. The company remained under the management of Joseph Greaves Elliot and his two sons Joseph Hawksley Elliot and John Gilbert Elliot. On 31st December 1926 the manufacture of cutlery at the Spital Hill Works ceased and the business moved to Granville Works, 1 Sylvester Street, Sheffield.
By 1926 Sheffield Cutlery Manufacturers Limited was experiencing some financial difficulties and as a result sold parts of its businesses to Joseph G. Elliot. Joseph subsequently set up a private limited company, on Sep 2nd 1927, called Joseph Elliot and Sons (Sheffield) Limited. At the same time the original Joseph and Sons Limited company changed its name to Cutlery Agencies Limited.
Joseph and Sons (Sheffield) Limited, with its subsidiaries (see below for a list), was taken over during the early nineteen seventies by J Dewsnap Bowler Limited, Sylvester Works, Sylvester Street, Sheffield.
Other companies associated with the collection
J. Dewsnap Bowler Limited
Sylvester Street, Sheffield (formerly 89 Trippet Lane, Sheffield).
Described as a manufacturer of cutlery materials, at some point in the 1970's this company seems to have acquired Joseph Elliot and Sons (Sheffield) Limited and its subsidiaries. It is not clear from the collection how this business relationship developed, but it seems that Elliots maintained a degree of autonomy within the arrangement.
Subsidiaries of Joseph Elliot and Sons (Sheffield) Limited include:
I. and J. Barber
Era Works, Sheffield
Manufacturer of superior pen and pocket knives. 'Era' trademark.
Colquhoun and Cadman Limited
Sylvester Street, Sheffield
Manufacturer of Cutlery
Incorporated 16th January 1907
Thomas Ellin and Company Limited
Sylvester Works, Sylvester Street, Sheffield
Established 1784, incorporated 14th January 1907
Manufacturer of high class table cutlery, pen and pocket knives, dirk, bowie, hunting, palette, putty, butchers' and plumbers knives, razors, scissors, spoons, forks etc. 'Vulcan' and 'Cutter' trademarks.
Lockwood Brothers Limited
Spital Hill Works, Sheffield
Established 1767, incorporated 30th June 1891
(Owner of John Sorby and Sons)
'Pampa' and 'I. and H. Sorby' trademarks
John Wigfall and Company Limited
Auckland Works, Eldon Street, Sheffield
Established 1843
Manufacturer of table cutlery of all kinds, shoe, bread and butchers' knives, glaziers', farriers', palette and pruning knives, table and butchers' steels, pen, pocket and sporting knives, razors, scissors, electro-plate spoons and forks, fish carvers etc. 'Bonafide' trademark.
John Wilson and Company Limited
Sycamore Street, Sheffield
Manufacturer of knives (butchers, shoes) as well as general cutlery and steels.
'Four Peppercorns and a diamond' trademark.

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