William Greaves & sons "Sheafworks", for barber use...8/8...

Pat a écrit:

et en plus y fait de belles photos, ( même si la bouteille y est pour beaucoup, je ne vois que ça comme explication )

Pfff, si ça se trouve, ce n'est même pas lui qui fait les photos. Il ne va pas être bon partout tout de même!!!

Pat.[/quote]

ou alors... y bois le Lilac y a marqué Pinaud dessus quand même

erjdecharente a écrit:

Pat a écrit:

et en plus y fait de belles photos, ( même si la bouteille y est pour beaucoup, je ne vois que ça comme explication )

Pfff, si ça se trouve, ce n'est même pas lui qui fait les photos. Il ne va pas être bon partout tout de même!!!

Pat.

ou alors... y bois le Lilac y a marqué Pinaud dessus quand même [/quote]


Oui ben ça c'est parcequ'il est passé par chez toi.

Pat.

Magnifique....

Bravo....

Ben moi, j'ai plus qu'a me rendormir après toutes ces belles choses.

Il est sublime !!!!
Félicitation Impérator pour cette magnifique restauration.

Ce type de lame est en quelque sorte mon Graal à moi, je crois que j'aurais pu me damner pour celui-là!

Je ne suis vraiment vraiment pas déçu du résultat: on a beau connaitre le travail du maître Impérial, ça n’empêche pas d'être surpris et ébloui à chaque fois !

cheesegeek a écrit:

Bon le rasoir... Bah, comme d'habitude... Il n'était pas moche à l'origine mais il a vachement bien fait de croiser le chemin d'impérator!

charlie48horlogerie a écrit:

1823 1826 si je ne m'abuse ???

Ah là, monsieur charlie sait un truc que j'ignore. Ok pour la date de départ 1823 qui correspond au lancement du complexe / usine de "Sheaf works"... Mais pourquoi 1826 (fin de la construction?) parce que le Sheaf works a tourné même après la première vente de Greaves (1850) et la marque a continué d'être utilisée après...
Donc je m'interroge
"- Quel bouquin a-t-il qui me manquerait? Le "Lloyd"? le "Leader"? le "Himsworth"?
- Est ce le marquage avec les épées?"

Arg deux fois dégouté pour deux raisons différentes dans le même sujet!

Je me permets de relancer cette question car la réponse m’intéresse aussi: pourquoi ce 1826? Ça correspond à quoi?

Je l'adore. Quel travail.

Belle pièce.

J'avais vu ça sur le net, mais je sais reconnaitre mes erreurs

1823-1850 (date de dissolution de Wm Greaves and sons)
voir 1858 date à laquelle Eyre arrête d'utiliser la marque :
The firm was sold to B.J.Eyre & Company in 1850, and they may have continued using the Greaves markings for a time (approximately until 1858).


William Greaves & Sons
When the Greaves family built Sheaf Works in 1823, it was the first sign that great
changes were underway in the Sheffield cutlery trade. The main block of Sheaf
Works (still standing in Maltravers Street near the Wicker) was the centrepiece of
the first large-scale factory in the town. Sheffielders had seen nothing like it, when
the firm erected a £50,000 building in which ‘one grand end was kept in view, namely that of centralizing on the
spot all the various processes through which the iron must pass ... until fashioned into razor, penknife or other
article of use’ (Hunter, 1875). Contemporary accounts described how the firm converted and melted steel at one
end of the factory; at the other, tools and knives were dispatched around the world. It was probably not quite as
self-contained as these descriptions imply, but there was no doubting the novel size of the factory.
Greaves’ had been active since at least the late eighteenth century. Unconfirmed reports state that the
business began in Burgess Street in 1775 (where William Greaves, ‘cutler’, was listed in 1787). According to
another source, William Greaves had a ‘bit of a trade in Cheney Square’ [St Paul’s Church], and frequented a
public house in Mulberry Street (Sheffield Independent, 25 January 1873). He then relocated to premises in
Hollis Croft (later occupied by Joseph Elliot, qv). By 1817, William Greaves had moved to Division Street and
had brought his sons – Edward and Richard – into the business. By the early 1820s, Edward and Richard had
become the driving force in the foundation of Sheaf Works. Richard is credited by Joseph Hunter (1875) as the
key architect of the scheme.
Greaves’s main market was the USA. By 1849, William Greaves & Sons was listed as ‘American
merchants’, selling table knives, razors, files, edge tools, railway springs, and steel. Besides large quantities of
table cutlery, the company made many Bowie knives. The firm had a New York office in Pearl Street,
Manhattan. America made William Greaves possibly the wealthiest manufacturer in Sheffield at that time.
When he died on 13 May 1830, aged 78, he apparently left his daughters £30,000 each.
Richard and Edward Greaves inherited the concern and recruited new directors. These
included Thomas Blake (qv), who had married a daughter of William Greaves; John Fawcett
(d. 8 January 1848, aged 52); and John Bower Brown. The latter had been born in about 1801
and had served his apprenticeship at the company. Brown later married Mary Ann, the
youngest daughter of William Greaves. He was also related to John Fawcett and William
Fawcett, a partner in James Dixon (qv).
Richard Greaves died at Shire House on 26 April 1835. When Edward Greaves died on 6 October 1846, aged 68 (and was buried in Ecclesall), the
Greaves’s interest in the company ended. John Bower Brown then became head of the firm. Additional partners
in the 1840s included Wilford Mettam (d. 6 June 1851, aged 38), Benjamin James Eyre (qv), and William
Taylor (d. 22 June 1862, aged 54). In 1850, John B. Brown retired and took up law. He
lived at Woodthorpe Hall, near Richmond, and died in Southport on 21 August 1876, aged 75. He left
£60,000. In 1850, William Greaves & Sons was dissolved, the stock and machinery auctioned, and
the remaining partners went their separate ways. B. J. Eyre launched his own company, using part of
Sheaf Works. The steel and tool side of Sheaf Works was taken over by Thomas Turton & Sons,
which thereafter owned and used the Greaves & Sons’ mark. Turton’s was later bought by
Frederick T. Mappin (qv). By the 1990s, the main block of Sheaf Works had become derelict; by 2007
it had been refurbished as Sheaf Quay – a pub complex.

Ok, merci pour ces détails supplémentaires...

charlie48horlogerie a écrit:

William Greaves & Sons
When the Greaves family built Sheaf Works in 1823, it was the first sign that great
changes were underway in the Sheffield cutlery trade. The main block of Sheaf
Works (still standing in Maltravers Street near the Wicker) was the centrepiece of
the first large-scale factory in the town. Sheffielders had seen nothing like it, .......

Ah! Ce bouquin là je dois l'avoir! Ca me rassure je en suis pas obligé de tous les balancer en me disant qu'ils sont faux! :-) Ca reste un très beau rasoir même en 1850!

Il faut parfois se méfier avec le net et les infos qui y sont proposées...Mea magna culpa